I appreciate your thoughtful and much more nuanced response! I absolutely agree that children are a source of tremendous joy, love and give purpose to one's life... but in almost all the cases of forced parenthood, the situation becomes a tragedy for the parent forced into motherhood/fatherhood - and usually has dire consequences for the babe not lovingly welcomed...

Forcing someone into parenthood when the were not able or willing to stop up to such responsibilities is not a responsible or loving thing to do. .

Ideally, young immature people should consider intimate encounters out of the question, but as I said in my reply, the normalisation of early sexual relations outside of a committed committed relationship in Western culture, means such situations are bound to arise.

Women too often use having child as leverage to keep a man/get a house/gain adult status... I say this having 3 sisters who were desperate to become mothers and did not take much care to check out the moral and other qualities of the man, but marriage was a means to that motherhood and wifely status. Not surprisingly, the man did not stay long, and then they became bitter and resentful and manipulative towards their children, playing the victim card to get their own way... SO yes, men should fulfil responsibilities but women also should stop such power play.